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#13887: "UNDO function should be implemented on ALL games where it would not affect rules or play."

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30. Mar 2025 05:37 • 8o0O0o8 • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

In my opinion Undo button shouldn't exist at all.. once a move is made there is no back.. like chess! think before the move.. once the move is done, it's too late.. after having seen what is going to happen after a move is done, going back is cheating! .. having a good imagination of what is going to happen after a move belongs to good playing skills that needs training.. Undo button is like cheating and unfair from my point of view!

17. May 2025 20:09 • jaffacakes • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

Please continue to implement this across all games when information is not newly revealed. In particular, unlike when you are sitting at a real-time game (in person or online) asynchronous games can go over days or even months. It's not always practical to reconsider your full game every time you take a turn. Additionally, the incorporation of technology, playing on a tiny phone screen, or just understanding what the interface will do (the order in which options are presented, for example), can pose additional challenges. Some of the older games don't play well with the iPhone (ahem, Puerto Rico) and you have to click like 20 times to get your move to register, making the likelihood of pushing the wrong thing with your fat finger 20 times more likely! There's no reason to not have an undo button... games are supposed to be fun, and the undo button helps new and seasoned players alike!

From recent plays, I see that Verdant is newly in beta and has no undo functionality. Yokohama has undo at some points in the gameplay but not others (even when no information is revealed). And other games we play have inconsistent implementation of the undo functionality.

28. May 2025 07:45 • Starwarrior1128 • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

If BGA isn't going to mandate an UNDO function for games, then the least they can do is say which games does have an UNDO function on a game's homepage so that gamers know if a game has one before they start playing a new game that they might not want to play since it doesn't have an UNDO function.

20. Jun 2025 22:31 • ReltzSev • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

To 8o0O0o8,
Most boardgames on this site have the boardstate change a LOT more than in chess. Chess, while complex, is pretty finite of understanding what can and will occur. The number of elements that change state on games can lead to complex interaction of pieces, resources, and rule understanding about the state that you might not intend.

If you want to imagine it another way, when you touch your piece in chess, you can feel free to 'undo' your intended place you wanted to put it but are free to move elsewhere until you lay the piece down. Likewise in BGA if you confirm your move the move is done and it's too late then.

And another thought to consider, what happens if you made an improper move due to either the web or mobile interface? All I can see is that without incorporating an undo feature on games that allow it is frustration and people leaving BGA. If you want to advocate for a 'no takesies backsies feature' that disables undo, feel free and I'm sure developers that CAN incorporate an undo feature easily should be able to make a feature to disable it without much trouble.

19. Jul 2025 00:33 • cosmojack • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

I think something like that would be good for friendly two player games, the ability to request an undo from your opponent. Maybe in a “learning” mode. But not any ranked games.

That being said I also have fat finger syndrome, though I think the solution here is more of a need for all actions to require confirmation before taking any move that can prevent further undos or ending your turn.
That’s just my 2 cents!

25. Aug 2025 15:32 • DylanAM • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

Seems like the kind of thing that should be a toggle on/off or an option when beginning.

Chess is a good example, but not for what the original commenter suggested. In most chess games, unless you're playing a tournament (or a stodgy opponent), you're allowed to take back a move. The BGA Undo policy seems to encourage that strict/stodgy form of playing without realizing that most players don't enforce "no takebacks".

Most players don't care if new information is revealed by the play of a card, because the only person that new information typically hurts is the person who revealed that card/tile/whatever from their hand. So...if it's not worth it to the player who revealed a card to take it back and play another, then they don't have to use the undo feature.

8. Sep 2025 14:42 • Alejandro • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

Disagree !
Undo buttons should not exist at all, the amount of AP added to games does not align with the fast pace of playing on line instead of person. Spending coding time on this buttons that is not related to the game rules or flow is a waste of time.

7. Oct 2025 19:52 • tmccorry • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

The interface is not the most intuitive and given the wide variety of devices and associated user interface size (mobile phones, tablets, computers) there is a lot of room for “errors” outside game play. And undo function within a player’s turn where no new information is revealed helps address this unintended UI issues.

12. Nov 2025 20:47 • CorgiGirl • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

I like the idea that DylanAM proposed above -- a toggle on/off switch for being able to undo. If you're playing on a phone, it's too easy to drop your tile in the wrong slot. I play a lot and this is a common thing that people say (that they accidentally put their tile in the wrong place). An Undo option would be such an easy thing to implement.

19. Nov 2025 23:23 • solo59 • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

I personally don't play games if there is no undo as I play turn by turn and waste a few weeks game because of a misclick is unacceptable. And all my group of friends playing BGA online agree turn by turn.
The argument saying in Chess you cannot take back is wrong: I am a Chess player and in online turn by turn Chess, you always have a validation of your move. So you cannot have a misclick.
If there is a move confirmation it would be ok as well.

20. Nov 2025 12:39 • 23Metime • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

If not an undo button, then a pass button.

23. Nov 2025 04:35 • BryleCuff • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

The current implementation let's you get into too many timing situations where you can waste actions if you don't have the resources to pay. Without an undo I find myself making big mistakes that forfeit benefits I've worked for.

For me and many others, reliable undo is a make or break for an implementation. If you don't like undo-s, cool don't use it, but I feel developers should help facilitate people play the way they want. Be considerate of what matters to us.

1. Dec 2025 16:27 • Isar • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

IMPORTANT: Aside from programming regular undo's into the games themselves, there should also be a GENERAL "request undo" button in the same place where the abandon/concede buttons are.

It would be up to the opponent to judge whether they want to grant the undo. This doesn't fix all cases of misclicks but people can usually tell when it was a genuine misclick. In online dominion it is considered extremely normal (especially at the higher level) to always give people the undo they requested if their action didnt reveal new information. Personally I have never encountered someone bitter enough to not grant it there, and id say 90+% of people on BGA would also grant it. And as a bonus: Most people prefer fast play and not having to second guess every permanent click definitely increases overall speed.

3. Dec 2025 23:59 • theoneandonlygps • Vývojáři souhlasí, že je to dobrý nápad, a mají v úmyslu na tom pracovat:

Additionally I think a confirm move button would be helpful as well for games without multistage move. I also misclicked and it switched to the opponents turn. I know games like boop have a confirm timer and I think that it should be implemented across all games. The timer is a good compromise as it does not allow for players to spend too much time looking at the outcomes of a move while also preventing misclicks. While their are ways to get around the confirm timer I generally think that it is a good solution.

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