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#26229: "Player that bids Abundance should be allowed to lead the hand"
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Pravidla: pravidla hry nebyla dodržena
Detailní popis
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• Která část pravidel nebyla dodržena adaptací hry na BGA
According to the Pagat rules you linked, this should work the same as in Wiezen.
If a player bids Abundance, they should be allowed to lead the hand instead of the first player after the dealer, right? -
• Je vidět porušení pravidel na záznamu hry? Pokud ano, ve kterém tahu?
Check on move #18 of this game.
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14. Oct 2020 20:24 • wolmot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
From pagat:
The player to the dealer's left leads to the first trick (unless the bid is abundance declared, in which case the bidder leads).
The player to the dealer's left leads to the first trick (unless the bid is abundance declared, in which case the bidder leads).
15. Oct 2020 11:33 • wolmot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
Looks like this might be just my mistake.
I misinterpreted those rules as "unless player declared (bid) an Abundance", not only specifically for "Abundance Declared".
So it is correct that for normal Abundance, the bidder does not start the hand, but only for Abundance Declared?
I misinterpreted those rules as "unless player declared (bid) an Abundance", not only specifically for "Abundance Declared".
So it is correct that for normal Abundance, the bidder does not start the hand, but only for Abundance Declared?
18. Oct 2020 12:01 • Jimblefredberry • Toto není bug:
Sorry, I only just saw this but report. But yes, you have corrected yourself correctly haha! It is only in an abundance declared that you get the lead.
27. Nov 2020 14:25 • JusterGame • Toto není bug:
As I have always played since 1950's, abundance bidder does not play first - only 'declared' does. This is the approach described in 'Card Games' (Chambers).
Abundance is only 9 tricks, and would not have been bid unless player knew there was a good chance, despite an awkward lead, so doesn't need to extra 'bonus' of playing first.
'Declared' is so potentially endangered by a lead from elsewhere that the extra security of 'my own lead' IS sensible.
Abundance is only 9 tricks, and would not have been bid unless player knew there was a good chance, despite an awkward lead, so doesn't need to extra 'bonus' of playing first.
'Declared' is so potentially endangered by a lead from elsewhere that the extra security of 'my own lead' IS sensible.
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