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#82163: "When tile bag is empty, criteria to end game is not clear and inconsistent"
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Pravidla: pravidla hry nebyla dodržena
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• Která část pravidel nebyla dodržena adaptací hry na BGA
I filed this under broken rules, but reading the manual, I couldn't find what the rule is supposed to be. It would be great if BGA could clarify what the rule is, or possible let the players choose between different rules.
In table 348712225, the tile bag was empty, and I was able to win the game by placing a number of tiles while the other player couldn't play and couldn't draw additional tiles. This makes me think that the rule is "the game doesn't end until all players pass".
In other games, the game suddenly ended two or three rounds after the bag was empty, even though not all players had passed. It was not clear to me what the condition was for ending the game.• Je vidět porušení pravidel na záznamu hry? Pokud ano, ve kterém tahu?
Game end.• Jaký prohlížeč používáte?
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Gernot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
24. úno 2023 14:08 • I can try to look for the table numbers for examples for games that ended early, but it's hard to search for this type of situation in the game result list, since they don't show how long the game was. I'm sure if you can search for all games with more than 125 or so moves, you will find examples pretty quickly.
Gernot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
13. bře 2023 5:17 • In game 356106031, the game suddenly ended after I drew the last tile. Neither of us had passed. It is possible that the game ended because neither of us could place any more of our tiles, but if that was the reason, there was no message or other indication of why the game ended.
Gernot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
14. bře 2023 20:27 • In game 356638896, my opponent played a tile, then I picked the last tile, passed, and the game ended. There is no explanation why the game ended.
Gernot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
25. bře 2023 4:35 • In game 360103812, the game continued for a while when the tile bag was empty. It ended when my opponent had one tile left that wasn't playable, but it didn't even wait for him to pass.
In fact, neither of us had any playable tiles left, but if that's why the game ended, there should be a message to say so.
In fact, neither of us had any playable tiles left, but if that's why the game ended, there should be a message to say so.
Gernot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
6. dub 2023 6:21 • I think the game should continue until:
- one of the players finishes all her tiles (finish at end of round), or
- there are no more tiles in the tile bag, and both players have passed (I can't find this in the rules, but I think this is the intent)
Here's the behavior I've observed so far:
- If the tile bag is empty, and there are no more playable tiles, the game ends. This is not a bug, it's a nice feature since both players would have to pass anyway, so it saves time. But there should be a message saying that there are no more playable tiles, otherwise it's confusing, especially because you can only see your own tiles and can't know whether the opponent still has playable tiles.
- I have observed that the game suddenly ends if the last tile is drawn and the player passes. This happens even if there are other playable tiles in the game, so I think this is a bug. (Game 356638896: I drew the last tile, which was not playable, but I had other playable tiles).
- Once we overcome the possible early end right after drawing the last tile, the game properly continues until both players pass or there are no more playable tiles. Again, I think it would be nice to have a log message that the game ended because both players passed.
- one of the players finishes all her tiles (finish at end of round), or
- there are no more tiles in the tile bag, and both players have passed (I can't find this in the rules, but I think this is the intent)
Here's the behavior I've observed so far:
- If the tile bag is empty, and there are no more playable tiles, the game ends. This is not a bug, it's a nice feature since both players would have to pass anyway, so it saves time. But there should be a message saying that there are no more playable tiles, otherwise it's confusing, especially because you can only see your own tiles and can't know whether the opponent still has playable tiles.
- I have observed that the game suddenly ends if the last tile is drawn and the player passes. This happens even if there are other playable tiles in the game, so I think this is a bug. (Game 356638896: I drew the last tile, which was not playable, but I had other playable tiles).
- Once we overcome the possible early end right after drawing the last tile, the game properly continues until both players pass or there are no more playable tiles. Again, I think it would be nice to have a log message that the game ended because both players passed.
Gernot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
8. dub 2023 6:03 • Game 364766382 ended when I drew the last tile and passed. Both my opponent and I still had playable tiles.
It seems that whenever the last tile is drawn and not played, the game ends. I think that is a bug.
In game 364656677, my opponent didn't want to draw the last tile because she was aware of this "rule". She commented that she didn't want to draw the tile because she didn't want the game to end if it was unplayable.
If it is a feature and not a bug, I would like the option to turn it off.
It seems that whenever the last tile is drawn and not played, the game ends. I think that is a bug.
In game 364656677, my opponent didn't want to draw the last tile because she was aware of this "rule". She commented that she didn't want to draw the tile because she didn't want the game to end if it was unplayable.
If it is a feature and not a bug, I would like the option to turn it off.
Gernot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
9. dub 2023 4:47 • In game 365070846, I drew the last tile, passed, and the game ended. I still had playable tiles.
In game 365086373, my opponent drew the last tile, passed, and the game didn't end. It ended when I passed after that.
This is just messed up, someone needs to fix it! Make it consistent, and add messages explaining why the game ended, please!
In game 365086373, my opponent drew the last tile, passed, and the game didn't end. It ended when I passed after that.
This is just messed up, someone needs to fix it! Make it consistent, and add messages explaining why the game ended, please!
Gernot • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
11. dub 2023 5:38 • In game 365762653, my opponent drew the last tile and passed. Then I passed, and the game ended. My opponent still had playable tiles, but didn't get a chance to play them after he drew the last tile.
rhinotop • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
28. čec 2023 22:50 • In game 401586348, my opponent drew the last tile, played it, and the game ended in a tie. The tile bag was empty but both of us had 2 tiles left each. It wasn't clear to me why the game ended. Shouldn't we both be allowed to pass once before the game ends?
nopeasaurus • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
2. lis 2023 8:41 • in this game: boardgamearena.com/table?table=434839540
Bag empty, after passing a few times and my opponent almost catching up, the game decided to end. They probably could have played and caught up if they were allowed to play. This has been critical in other games but I don't have links for those. Wish we knew exactly what the criteria are.
Bag empty, after passing a few times and my opponent almost catching up, the game decided to end. They probably could have played and caught up if they were allowed to play. This has been critical in other games but I don't have links for those. Wish we knew exactly what the criteria are.
pintobean1980 • Chyba zatím nebyla vývojáři reprodukována:
15. čec 2025 9:10 • I've been experiencing this more and more recently, and it's becoming a real drag.
In this game: boardgamearena.com/table?table=701411728
Then this game: boardgamearena.com/table?table=701421576
Players who know about this can use it to their advantage.
In this game: boardgamearena.com/table?table=701411728
Then this game: boardgamearena.com/table?table=701421576
Players who know about this can use it to their advantage.
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